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	<title>Comments on: The Banality of Occupation</title>
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		<title>By: Trollstein</title>
		<link>http://mitchellplitnick.com/2008/05/29/the-banality-of-occupation/#comment-934</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moreover, please see:
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=65919
This is exactly what I have been mentioning for years.  While it is slightly off-topic for this conversation, it relates to the larger issue of who prefers war and who wants peace.
Israelis can have peace, providing they:
1. Renounce historical and/or religious ties to Jerusalem.
2. Stop trying to prove otherwise.
3.Accept that &quot; . . . Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses and Jesus were &quot;prophets for the Israelites sent by Allah as to usher in Islam.&quot;
4. Accept that the &quot;Al Aqsa Mosque . . . . was built by angels&quot;.
5. Accept that &quot;The Al Aqsa Mosque was constructed in about 709 . . . [and] was meant to mark what Muslims came to believe was the place at which Muhammad, the founder of Islam, ascended to heaven to receive revelations from Allah [even though Mr. Mohammed passed away some 62 years earlier].
6. Accept that Jews will always be the minority, (at least until such time as they convert to Islam).
7. Accept that 7-million more Arabs have rights as Israeli citizens.
Etc., etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moreover, please see:<br />
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This is exactly what I have been mentioning for years.  While it is slightly off-topic for this conversation, it relates to the larger issue of who prefers war and who wants peace.<br />
Israelis can have peace, providing they:<br />
1. Renounce historical and/or religious ties to Jerusalem.<br />
2. Stop trying to prove otherwise.<br />
3.Accept that &#8221; . . . Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses and Jesus were &#8220;prophets for the Israelites sent by Allah as to usher in Islam.&#8221;<br />
4. Accept that the &#8220;Al Aqsa Mosque . . . . was built by angels&#8221;.<br />
5. Accept that &#8220;The Al Aqsa Mosque was constructed in about 709 . . . [and] was meant to mark what Muslims came to believe was the place at which Muhammad, the founder of Islam, ascended to heaven to receive revelations from Allah [even though Mr. Mohammed passed away some 62 years earlier].<br />
6. Accept that Jews will always be the minority, (at least until such time as they convert to Islam).<br />
7. Accept that 7-million more Arabs have rights as Israeli citizens.<br />
Etc., etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Trollstein</title>
		<link>http://mitchellplitnick.com/2008/05/29/the-banality-of-occupation/#comment-933</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In every fight, literally every one in the history of mankind, some percentage of the (neutral) 3rd-party viewers takes sides with the looser.  Its human nature and may arise from pre-evolution. 
Of course, another percentage of outside viewers like to favor the winner.  But that&#039;s for a different discussion.  For this matter, its the group of victom-lovers who are important. 
And Palestinian-Arabs are mainly victoms.  Where the disagreement comes into play relates to the question of:
Who are they victoms of??
The Israelis would like nothing better then to normalize relations with the Palestinian-Arabs, use them as a rescource of (mainly) non-professional laborers, and do what any self respecting Capitolist society does, namely, make a profit off their work.
That is the maximum which the Israelis should therefore be blamed.  
Debating the minutia is a fruitless waste of time and effort.   Firstly because the disparate sides are working off of profoundly conflicted facts.
But also because the &quot;big-picture&quot; is enormiously bigger then the day-to-day complaints and condemnations.  
The Jews are doing what any other nation iwould be forced to do.  Take pro-active measures to protect themselves
Try peaceful deomontrations in Tibet.  See what happens.  Or, let the non-violent Buddists try it in Batoun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In every fight, literally every one in the history of mankind, some percentage of the (neutral) 3rd-party viewers takes sides with the looser.  Its human nature and may arise from pre-evolution.<br />
Of course, another percentage of outside viewers like to favor the winner.  But that&#8217;s for a different discussion.  For this matter, its the group of victom-lovers who are important.<br />
And Palestinian-Arabs are mainly victoms.  Where the disagreement comes into play relates to the question of:<br />
Who are they victoms of??<br />
The Israelis would like nothing better then to normalize relations with the Palestinian-Arabs, use them as a rescource of (mainly) non-professional laborers, and do what any self respecting Capitolist society does, namely, make a profit off their work.<br />
That is the maximum which the Israelis should therefore be blamed.<br />
Debating the minutia is a fruitless waste of time and effort.   Firstly because the disparate sides are working off of profoundly conflicted facts.<br />
But also because the &#8220;big-picture&#8221; is enormiously bigger then the day-to-day complaints and condemnations.<br />
The Jews are doing what any other nation iwould be forced to do.  Take pro-active measures to protect themselves<br />
Try peaceful deomontrations in Tibet.  See what happens.  Or, let the non-violent Buddists try it in Batoun.</p>
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